Comments on: Tuesday Rumble: September 26th http://azureflame.dasaku.net/2006/09/26/tuesday-rumble-september-26th/ Fat cats make anime better Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:13:12 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Azure Flame Reloaded » Hikaru no Go http://azureflame.dasaku.net/2006/09/26/tuesday-rumble-september-26th/comment-page-1/#comment-5070 Azure Flame Reloaded » Hikaru no Go Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:00:25 +0000 http://azureflame.ikimashou.net/?p=1644#comment-5070 [...] feeling of simply not getting value for money. Aside from the fact that the stories all follow a standard pattern, there’s a tendency for the pace to slow down with each arc, until a single conflict ends up [...] [...] feeling of simply not getting value for money. Aside from the fact that the stories all follow a standard pattern, there’s a tendency for the pace to slow down with each arc, until a single conflict ends up [...]

]]> By: Karura http://azureflame.dasaku.net/2006/09/26/tuesday-rumble-september-26th/comment-page-1/#comment-817 Karura Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:42:53 +0000 http://azureflame.ikimashou.net/?p=1644#comment-817 Hmm, I thought Hikaru started playing as early as the Haze Go Club and seventh grade tournament, which was quite early on...anyway, Kenshin (who doesn't have spiky hair anyway), Hikaru and Gon are the three SJ heroes I actually like. As for Goku, isn't he the most formulaic of the lot? Goku isn't strong enough -> Goku trains with the latest master/training partner -> Goku manages to defeat latest enemy in no fewer than 612 episodes, most likely with Genki Dama. Then there's the big names that do fit the formula- Ichigo Kurosaki, Naruto, Yoh Asakura, Yugi "I have 10 life points left but now I will defeat you using the card I just drew" Mutou, Yusuke Urameshi, Gin and Weed- and if we expand the net to genre series that weren't published in SJ, then the heroes of the likes of Beyblade, Rave Master, Megaman/Rockman, Tokyo Underground and Zoids Zero are equally guilty. Anyway, at the end of the day, Tuesday Rumble is not meant to be a serious analysis; as you can gather from the tone of the article, it light-heartedly pokes fun at some easy targets. If you want to discuss SJ heroes in more depth, then Hopeless has recently created a post <a href="http://hopeless.wordpress.com/2006/09/25/die-all-ye-spiky-haired-fools/" rel="nofollow">on that very topic</a>. Hmm, I thought Hikaru started playing as early as the Haze Go Club and seventh grade tournament, which was quite early on…anyway, Kenshin (who doesn’t have spiky hair anyway), Hikaru and Gon are the three SJ heroes I actually like.
As for Goku, isn’t he the most formulaic of the lot? Goku isn’t strong enough -> Goku trains with the latest master/training partner -> Goku manages to defeat latest enemy in no fewer than 612 episodes, most likely with Genki Dama. Then there’s the big names that do fit the formula- Ichigo Kurosaki, Naruto, Yoh Asakura, Yugi “I have 10 life points left but now I will defeat you using the card I just drew” Mutou, Yusuke Urameshi, Gin and Weed- and if we expand the net to genre series that weren’t published in SJ, then the heroes of the likes of Beyblade, Rave Master, Megaman/Rockman, Tokyo Underground and Zoids Zero are equally guilty.
Anyway, at the end of the day, Tuesday Rumble is not meant to be a serious analysis; as you can gather from the tone of the article, it light-heartedly pokes fun at some easy targets. If you want to discuss SJ heroes in more depth, then Hopeless has recently created a post on that very topic.

]]> By: Hikaru no Go « Azure Flame http://azureflame.dasaku.net/2006/09/26/tuesday-rumble-september-26th/comment-page-1/#comment-816 Hikaru no Go « Azure Flame Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:34:20 +0000 http://azureflame.ikimashou.net/?p=1644#comment-816 [...] When it comes to Shounen Jump, all too often there’s an undisputable feeling of simply not getting value for money. Aside from the fact that the stories all follow a standard pattern, there’s a tendency for the pace to slow down with each arc, until a single conflict ends up occupying what seems like hundreds of chapters. With that in mind, it is no wonder that I end up getting bored and giving up on most SJ series well before the end- what is surprising, however, is that the one exception to the rule would occur when the SJ formula is applied to the game of Go. [...] [...] When it comes to Shounen Jump, all too often there’s an undisputable feeling of simply not getting value for money. Aside from the fact that the stories all follow a standard pattern, there’s a tendency for the pace to slow down with each arc, until a single conflict ends up occupying what seems like hundreds of chapters. With that in mind, it is no wonder that I end up getting bored and giving up on most SJ series well before the end- what is surprising, however, is that the one exception to the rule would occur when the SJ formula is applied to the game of Go. [...]

]]> By: Devil's Advocate http://azureflame.dasaku.net/2006/09/26/tuesday-rumble-september-26th/comment-page-1/#comment-815 Devil's Advocate Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:53:53 +0000 http://azureflame.ikimashou.net/?p=1644#comment-815 Rebuttal: Spikey Hair Heroes of Skill You know... a lot of the spikey haired Shounen Jump heroes aren't completely newcomers to their respective field, and have actual reasons for kicking ass. For example... Rounin Kenshin, Kenshin spent years learning his sword style, and then proceeded to work as an assassin for sometime before the start of the series. Hikaru no Go's Hikaru might be a newcomer, that's true... but he didn't actually play Go for the first half of the series. The ancient ghost possesing him, who was an imperial teacher of Go, was the one playing for him (so technically he cheated for half a season, but still.) Black Cat's Train Heartnet also worked as an assassin prior to the start of the series, explaining his l33t skills. Heck, even in Dragonball, the original series featured young Goku training his butt off with Roshi. The generalization that all Shounen Jump protagonists are newcomers who overcome more skilled people through no good reason is flawed. Rebuttal: Spikey Hair Heroes of Skill

You know… a lot of the spikey haired Shounen Jump heroes aren’t completely newcomers to their respective field, and have actual reasons for kicking ass. For example… Rounin Kenshin, Kenshin spent years learning his sword style, and then proceeded to work as an assassin for sometime before the start of the series. Hikaru no Go’s Hikaru might be a newcomer, that’s true… but he didn’t actually play Go for the first half of the series. The ancient ghost possesing him, who was an imperial teacher of Go, was the one playing for him (so technically he cheated for half a season, but still.) Black Cat’s Train Heartnet also worked as an assassin prior to the start of the series, explaining his l33t skills. Heck, even in Dragonball, the original series featured young Goku training his butt off with Roshi. The generalization that all Shounen Jump protagonists are newcomers who overcome more skilled people through no good reason is flawed.

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